Narendra Sisodiya: "Quick Start Chat" to Google Code Hosting for newbies {#qsc #google}

Hi, I normally avoid chatting on Linux topic. and I hate when someone ask his/her problem on chat. I hate because It is one to one communication. I redirect such newbies to mailing list so that other can participate into it. Google index mailing list thread so that other can read such thread after google search. But I found one useful thing in one to one chat system. one of one chat system can be useful for guiding the procedure to newbies.
Today when Abhishek Indoria (A 14 year old school boy, OLPC contributor) asked me how he can put his source code to some hosting site, I immediately got idea of "Quick Start Chat". In this system I have explained him each and every steps and he followed all steps. I always wanted to make a tutorial on how to get started with google code hosting but now I have spent 2-3 hour teaching on chat to produce "quick start chat". You can also blog such "quick start chat" as tutorial.

11:22 AM Abhishek: Dude, I know you may be busy...erm..do you know about GIT? or subversion?

11:23 AM me: I have used only svn

but git is something which is better to learn

Abhishek: erm...I need to set up my whole project source code online...

how do I do that?

11:24 AM me: you can do it using sourceforge or Google code hosting

google code hosting use SVG

you can use github too

github use GIT

11:25 AM Abhishek: Sourceforge.net seems good...But, I need to upload the Source in zip or rar or .tar format instead of erm...open editing version like GIT or SVN?

me: no no ,, do not upload tar or zip file

11:26 AM first create a project on these site

and then make a checkout

Abhishek: I have created the project...Checkout?

me: yes,,, checkout the empty project

Abhishek: You know, I feel like stupid as I am only 14 and have loads to learn;)

me: then put your files into it

11:27 AM seee, I learn these things at the age of 24,,,

after making a empty checkout ,, you need to paste files into it

then add files using

11:28 AM svn add filename.cpp

after that you need to comit the files

using "svn ci" command

Abhishek: Ohh..Okay, I am logging into sourceforge...I'll see what I can do, thanks;) Did you read The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown or Code to Zero by Ken Follet?

11:29 AM me: I suggest to use google code hosting,,

I have used it ,, and it has cool features

Abhishek: Erm.. The thing is...

whenever I try Google Code, I can't upload a damn single file.. Dunno why:(

11:30 AM me: Let me guide you,,

Do you have svn installed ??

Abhishek: yup.

wait...

11:31 AM I reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday,,, SVN Not installed...

me: ok,, just install svn command,,

it wont take much time

11:32 AM mean while go to google code hosting

and create a new project

Abhishek: okay...

me: http://code.google.com/hosting/createProject

do you have google wave account ?

11:33 AM Abhishek: No..but I have already created a project..whats google wave?

11:34 AM me: leave google wave,,, Give me link to google project

your project link

Abhishek: wait please.

11:35 AM code.google.com/p/boomingbang/

me: click it,, and go to source tab

11:36 AM Abhishek: okay..

now?

me: yup

you can see checkout command

Abhishek: yes...

11:37 AM me: send me

11:38 AM Abhishek: eh.. svn checkout https://boomingbang.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ boomingbang --username hackerboymayabhi

when I do that...it says

svn: URL 'https://boomingbang.googlecode.com/svn/trunk' doesn't exist

me: see,, you have deleted the trunk

11:39 AM When you create the new project it make 4 directory

1) trunk

2) wiki

3) branch

4) tag

Abhishek: oh..

me: you it will suggest you to make new project

11:40 AM just delete it and create new project

Abhishek: okay..

11:42 AM http://code.google.com/p/imperius/

11:43 AM me: Now go to source code and give me the checkout command

11:44 AM Abhishek: now. it says CHECKED OUT REVISION 1...wait... svn checkout https://imperius.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ imperius --username hackerboymayabhi ...DO you need the password?

me: Nope,

never share password

Abhishek: okay.

me: now open a terminal

Abhishek: done

me: and create a directory where you want to create code

11:45 AM ex

mkdir MyProject

cd MyProject

now apply same command by remove trunk out of it

11:46 AM svn checkout https://imperius.googlecode.com/svn/ imperius --username hackerboymayabhi

11:47 AM Abhishek: kay

me: show me the output

It will ask for password, it is there at google code website

11:48 AM Abhishek: A imperius/trunk
A imperius/branches
A imperius/tags
Checked out revision 1.

me: fine

now you can see 3 directory

which you have checked out

Abhishek: okay...

11:49 AM me: see trunk will be needed for your code

so now cd trunk

Abhishek: okay.

11:50 AM me: send me output of these 3 command - pwd, ls -l. svn status

Abhishek: wait, please.

pwd -- /media/Disk 3/BoomingBang/codenamei/imperius/trunk

11:51 AM ls -l : total 0

svn status ... Nothing.

me: ok,

now create a new file

or you can directly paste your code file here

11:52 AM Abhishek: I have folders too...

me: I will show you how to add commit using one file,,

you can do that later

11:53 AM just paste one file

Abhishek: okay.

done

11:54 AM me: give me "svn status"

Abhishek: ? configure

thats the status ^^

11:55 AM me: yes, it is saying, It is that configure is a new file

now you need to add this file to svn system

apply

"svn add configure" command

11:56 AM Abhishek: saying: A configure
I think done.

me: yes,, but change are local

you need to comit the change to mail project

use

"svn ci filenames" to comit

11:57 AM now use "svn ci configure"

give me the output

Abhishek: --This line, and those below, will be ignored--

AM configure

There is NANO

text editor

11:58 AM okay...

me: yes,, while commiting the files you need to write comments

11:59 AM and then save it

Abhishek: after the saving of file, though I entered it empty;) ...Its saying...Adding configure
Transmitting file data .
Committed revision 2.

me: Wow,,,

check the code,,

google url

http://code.google.com/p/imperius/updates/list

12:00 PM It is listing your changes

can you add me in your project for a moment so that I will show something more,,,

Abhishek: wow:) Excellent...thanks..okay, I can add you...

me: this is just 30%

12:01 PM tutorial

see your files at

http://code.google.com/p/imperius/source/browse/#svn/trunk

Abhishek: commitors or owners or contributors?

12:02 PM me: commiter

just add me as commiter

12:03 PM Abhishek: okay.

12:04 PM done

12:05 PM me: just a secound

12:06 PM checking out code now

12:08 PM I have added a new test file,,

12:09 PM just apply svn status command

send me the output

Abhishek: nothing.

12:11 PM me: svn status --show-updates --verbose

try this

give me output

12:12 PM Abhishek: * test.cpp
2 2 hackerboymayabhi configure
* 1 1 ? .
Status against revision: 3

12:13 PM messed up:)

me: try "svn st -u"

12:14 PM Abhishek: * test.cpp
* 1 .
Status against revision: 3

me: yes,

12:15 PM it means,, your files are not uptodated,,

just apply "svn update" command

to get latest code by other developers

Abhishek: okay..done that.

me: always send output of each command

12:16 PM Abhishek: A test.cpp
Updated to revision 4.

me: see, I have made 2 rivision,,

so now our code is at revision number 4

12:17 PM everytime you update change to trunk, It will make a new revision number

Abhishek: okay

me: anytime you can switch to old revision number too

now you modify test.cpp

12:18 PM Abhishek: how? ci is not working.

me: you have test.cpp file?

Abhishek: yup!

12:19 PM me: just open with any editor and add something

add a line

done??

12:20 PM Abhishek: yeah.

me: apply,, svn st

svn status

both are same command

apply anyone

Abhishek: nothing...

12:21 PM me: if you apply svn st command , It will give you something like - "M test.cpp"

give me output of ls, cat test.cpp

12:22 PM Abhishek: ls : configure test.cpp

cat:::::::: test.cpp#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main(){
//hello , code is still incomplete ;
cout<<"Hello world\n";
return 0;
}
// I know that code is incomplete

12:23 PM me: apply command "svn status"

Abhishek: nothing:(

me: I think you can not saved your changes

12:24 PM what editor you are using?

Abhishek: gedit

me: Oppps

12:25 PM Abhishek: it says..at revision 5

me: you can commit your changes,, It wont show,,,

why you commited your changes,, :( I didn't told you,,

now modifiy the file again using gedit

Abhishek: sorry:(

12:26 PM done.

me: now apply svn st

12:27 PM or svn status

Abhishek: M test.cpp

me: yes,, This mean,, test.cpp is modified by you,,

12:28 PM you can check the differece

also

apply "svn diff test.cpp"

send output

Abhishek: Index: test.cpp
===================================================================
- test.cpp (revision 5)
+++ test.cpp (working copy)
@@ -6,4 +6,5 @@
return 0;
}
// I know that code is incomplete
+// I know I am a jerk and I don't like C++

12:29 PM me: this is a text based +/- line which will tell you what you have added and deleted

but I will suggest to use

GUI diff tool

Abhishek: okay...

12:31 PM me: I saw your comit,, you are now sending log message while comitting

see this url,,

http://code.google.com/p/imperius/source/list

you can see differece b/w comit by you are me

12:32 PM apply command

Abhishek: got that..list

me: export SVN_EDITOR="vi"

you need to set environment variable,,